Does networking have the ability to grow your net worth? Many people believe that it does, but how? In today’s episode, Blake speaks with Travis Chappell, Founder and Host of the podcast Build Your Network. Discover how they believe that networking has the potential to expand and elevate your life, not only personally and financially, but in many other ways as well.
Does networking have the ability to grow your net worth? Many people believe that it does, but how?
Today, Blake speaks with Travis Chappell, Founder and Host of the podcast Build Your Network.
Discover how they believe that networking has the potential to expand and elevate your life, not only personally and financially, but in many other ways as well.
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Key Takeaways:
How Travis got started with his podcast (1:52)
The beginning of Guestio (6:55)
The vision for the future (9:46)
What is the process of getting your preferred guest with Guestio (11:35)
What type of information does Travis want to get out of his podcast guests? (15:33)
Travis talks about his interview with Tom Bilyeu (20:00)
What does game excellence look like in a practical sense? (25:49)
A few great concepts from interviews that Travis has done (31:28)
Why is it so important to have a mastermind group? (35:37)
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I had another guy that had been on three 400 podcasts. And when we were done with our interview, he said something like, you can always tell who actually prepares for interviews. And he's like there's only a handful of shows that I've been on that have like stood up stood out above the rest and yours is one of them. You know,
the reality is everyone thrives when they have quality thinking people around them
when I interviewed Grant Cardone, he stopped me probably two or three different times in the interview to say something like Wow, you really know your stuff. There's a
difference between having an excellent game and gain excellence and excellent game would be your excellent one time like someone I hit the ball one time really good or in the basketball game that you played really well tonight, but not normally. But game excellence is where you're excellent every single time on autopilot. Welcome, everyone to another Solomon Investor Podcast, where we look at the wisdom of the world's wisest man King Solomon and translate it to the 21st century investor covering everything you need to know on wealth, faith and excellence. I've got a really interesting guests with me today, Travis Chapelle, the founder and CEO of guests co new software that connects high level guests with high level content creators and really interested Travis to dig into that. He also is a host on top rated show build your network. In addition to featuring being featured in entrepreneur, NASDAQ, Yahoo Finance rewrites, trade has been featured in Forbes as a top 10 podcast that will change your life in among Joe Rogan Gary Vaynerchuk, Tim Ferriss, and the like. Travis, my man, welcome to the show.
Hey, what's up, man? Thanks so much for having me.
Hey, I'm glad to do so. I love your platform guests do what a great way to connect podcasters and high influencers? Who actually putting content out, especially obviously since most assessment virtual, and since 2020. Look forward to digging into that. But I want to back up and get into the the foundation, the conviction, the pain point that the aha moment, if you will, why did you create guests do in with that also? The brand build your network?
Yeah, sure. So I guess I'll start with build your network, because that was kind of the first thing. I grew up in Southern California, and really, kind of a unique situation. And I know that you guys talk a lot about faith here on the show, but I'll keep this story pretty short, sweet to the point. Um, I grew up in kind of like a bubble of sorts, I guess I would say I wouldn't say a cult, I would say more like a bubble. It was just very, very fundamentalist group of Christianity, essentially. And so I, you know, went to church a few times a week, and like Monday, you know, Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, and had, you know, chapel during school, and, you know, all that kind of stuff and graduated kindergarten on the same campus that I graduated college on. So they had a very interesting, plus college all on the same campus. And it was also the same place that I went to church, obviously. So quite literally, almost every day of my life was, was lived on this campus, from the time that I was three or four until the time I was 2122. And so I say that to say that in in high school, they didn't really like push us in different directions in terms of what we're going to do the rest of our life. It was basically like, ministry or not ministry, which of the two are you going to do and if it's not ministry, like provide any further direction on how to go about achieving the thing is that you want to do so I went to the ministry path, obviously got my went to the college on the same campus. Got my degree in Bible and church ministries, okay. And by the time I graduated, I realized that that was not the path that I wanted to go down for the rest of my life. And, but it was kind of too late. You know what I mean? I was graduated, I was already married, we got married before we graduated. So I was married, graduated, bought my first house, had a mortgage to pay and was just kind of like, okay, I don't know what I'm doing with my life. You know what I mean? So I kind of fell back on the only thing that I knew how to do at a time, which was door to door sales, because that's what I did in college, and just kind of kept doing that for a while and ended up ended up in door to door for for a little while. And after a little bit, I basically just got to the point, you know, I was making pretty decent money, especially considering that I had an unaccredited Bible degree. You know what I mean? Like I was making six figures, knocking doors, okay, sound stuff, but, you know, at age 22, or 23, or whatever I was at the time, but the problem was when I looked into the future at aged 33 Travis, I didn't like that future version of myself continuing to, you know, knock on doors and not to throw any shade about industry, I have lots of friends who's taking the industry for a long time and make really great money doing it. It just wasn't for me. So I, for the first time of my life, I just wasn't sure what I was going to do and didn't know how to find out what I was going to do. And so I just kind of dove into personal development for the first time ever started, read some books. And that's when I came across these things called podcasts. And just kind of seemed like a really interesting and cool way to be able to make a living full time. And so I started a show. And the only reason I chose build your network was I was going to start a show on sales. But I decided not to do it for two reasons. Number one, it was super, super saturated.
For sure, right.
38,000 podcasts that pop up. And then the second reason was the reason I was starting a show was so that I can get out of door to door sales, you know what I mean? So I was going to niche down to door to door specifically, but I was like I'm trying to get out of this industry. If I make a podcast here, it's only going to solidify me in this industry. And so literally, it was just kind of like, well, what else would I want to learn about what else would I care to to be better at in a few years? and networking was kind of one of those things? Because I just understood the principle of you know, your network is your net worth, and you're the average of the five of you spend most time with and so I was like, how do you actually go about getting around those types of people? Because I realized the people I wanted to connect weren't at the networking events that everybody else want to
chronically right.
Yeah, right. Like, what should be a big flu, you know, I make a lot of money. And you're in a in a place that's full of a bunch of people who don't make a lot of money, that's probably not the activity, that people who make a lot of money. Do you know what I mean? It's so true. But that doesn't mean that they ignored networking, obviously, because they all are still on the same page about your net worth and that the average day or the average, in fact, we spend less time with sounds like so they clearly are still doing the activity. They're just not doing it in this way. It's like 1985 style of name badge, business card networking, you know what I mean? So build your network just kind of became a project to figure out how people on a high level connected with each other. And that's kind of how the show ended up starting. So the way guests came about, was through learning how to network myself on the show and being able to to continue to connect with higher and higher level people. One of the big questions that we continue to get was, hey, Travis, how did you get so and so to say yes to an interview on your show? Or how'd you get in contact with so and so? or How did you get them to say, Yes, I know, I've been trying for months to get a response from this person, how did you get them to come on? And so we put together a couple of trainings and stuff. But at the end of the day, the real answer is that it's difficult. It takes a lot of time, it takes a lot of persistence. And it takes a lot of hard work to get really well known people who are Hi, whose time is really in demand, to get to them to say yes to an interview on a show, especially when you were like me, and you're starting from scratch and didn't really have any, like reason why they should have said yes to begin with. And not not everybody has the time to be able to do it like I did. You know what I mean? Like, that was just one of my big goals. And that was what I spent the majority of my time doing, when I started my show was just reach out, reach out, reach out. So guest co came along, because we wanted to be able to streamline that process and make it more efficient and make it to where regular people who don't have a bunch of time to just like dm people and you know, cold reach outs and stuff, that those people would be able to shortcut that process and have a more efficient reach out method. And that's kind of what birth the idea of guests do. So it's kind of like cameo for podcasters. It's like sure that you, you know, want to interview somebody and you happen to see them on the site, at least you know that hey, for 500 bucks, I can interview this person and they'll say, because, like they're listed here as a guest and they charge $100 for this purpose. So like if you want to kind of shortcut the learning curve a little bit shortcut the process and be able to go get those high, high quality people as your first few guests for your show, you can go to guest do and do it now, rather than doing the way that I did it, which was months and months and months of persistence and cold reach outs and rejections and getting ignored and all that type of stuff. So it kind of came directly out of you know, the brand that we built.
Yeah, I love that. I love that direction for the fact that some individuals who are at a high level of influence if you wanted to pay them 500 but they didn't have that framed in their mind that that was like an option, an opportunity for them. You probably couldn't get them on a dmo instead or whatever anyway, but you've actually helped them reprogram how they think. And obviously you did it in a really this the season right now is a really climatical time because so many influencers, their show or whatever their thing was that they were doing to get their serotonin in their status and their adrenaline like that was that was killed like their dopamine hit isn't happening. And so you applied an opportunity for a bridge that really worked out really well. What's your ultimate vision for both of those platforms?
Yeah, so with, with build your network, I mean, the vision is kind of what we already are doing right now, which is continuing to shed the light on the new way of reaching out and connecting with people on another level than you. And, and continuing to grow that show and grow the audience. And then for guests to we have a really big, much bigger vision of, of connecting people to people who are traditionally difficult or impossible to connect with. And so that that vision is is fueled by the desire to, you know, make the inaccessible, accessible and kind of become another version of cameo, but for this specific industry, the content creation industry.
Okay, awesome. Love that. So where you're going with that you're talking about Most people, when they're actually trying to build a network, even those who understand their network is their net worth. They go the old school method, they're actually literally handing out business cards, and it's really like died, like digesting, they're trying to get the other person to digest their sales pitch. And you've, you're helping people realize there's a whole nother way. And actually, you can, there's a synergistic way to do that. And so when people are going into reach out to large influencers, they have a gap, because they don't know how to build their network, and they don't know how to get that halo effect where, you know, a powerful influencer, they get on that stage or that that podcasts or whatever, and, and then they begin building, you know, leveling up, if you will. For my listeners who want to grow in influence, are you just really doing more of a dream 100 rolling up the sleeves, and going hard at it adding value pouring in saturating you know liking their stuff, commenting on their stuff, maybe giving gifts and actually really showing like you you're bringing a value that you have whatever it is, or do you have other cheat notes that you can help collapse time and that Spitz puts you on shows with influencers? Like Dean graziosi in person and Tom bill, you in person and Grant Cardone in person?
Yeah, sure. So the first answer is yes. To what you were formulating before is basically we have a whole process we walk people through. But yeah, it's essentially that like make a make a list segment the list, reach out to the list, nurture the list, like we have a whole kind of like framework we walking through. But yeah, like some of those that you just mentioned, were from direct intros with other people that I had already brought on my show. Because what happens is, when you start getting, we start getting the first Yes, it's easier to get the second Yes. And when you get the first two, it's easier to get the next two and you get the first four, it's easy to get the next four. And it kind of just starts building on itself to the point where like some of our bigger names like john Maxwell, or Tillman Fertitta, which are to some of our biggest and best guests we've had on the show, like their team reached out to us and asked Gary nice on our show. And so yeah, eventually, that snowball starts to pick up and build by itself. In and, and then you know, you can start getting some of those people on without having to do a lot of heavy lifting. But at the beginning, yeah, it's a lot of heavy lifting, like you got to do a lot of reach out, and you got to, you know, attack that list. And, like I said, we have, we have some different tools and tactics that that we that we use that we've kind of split tested over the course of, you know, lower, almost 600 podcast episodes recorded now. Like 530, something released. And so we've kind of formulated a few different things that have helped us along the way. And, and so so that that's usually what we what we teach people is like make a list, reach out to the list, have a meaningful request when you reach out to the list. And that's why we teach networking in the sense of like, content networking, which is if you want to get a hold of people have a content platform that you can create on that gives you a perfect excuse to ask people for a connection. That's what I mean by build a meaningful request. Because a lot of people don't ever connect with their heroes or the people they want to meet because they don't know what they would say if they got a response back and they don't know how to exactly proceed or build a relationship with that person. And they don't want to just ask them to jump on a sales call. Like they don't know what to say there. So we all people like craft a meaningful request for that. And then we have them create instant credibility. And that would be through like name dropping. If you've had other people that they know like and trust or recognize on your show. Then you drop their names right there in that kind of credibility section and you always finish it off with a Thanks in advance and that's kind of like the format You know, we know that we give to people is to, to, to go about it that way and, and increase your chances of hitting it Yes, or at least getting a response from somebody that's usually super busy or to, you know, well known to respond to every message that comes through.
Awesome, very good. And so I'm assuming you've got a very specific objective when you're going into those interviews. And for most people, like you just mentioned, they don't actually take the action for the whole fact that they don't know what they'd say. And so, and then for those who if we go back to the 1985 networking picture, for those who do want to go take the action, it's just like, you know, essentially, give me your money, or this is who I am. And you know, and so, you're going in with a very ninja or sniper objective in every interview. To be specific, let's just say, for example, your Pat Flynn interview, what was your ultimate objective you wanted to get out of here? Like, what were you trying to extract out of that interview?
Yeah, so it's kind of different for every interview. But I would say there's two different types of people that you have to worry about when you're going into the interview. The first one is your listener. And the second one is your guests. And the objective is to leave a positive impression on both of those people for the sake of continuous re engagement in the future. So you know, the guest is going to be in a sense of, if I do a good enough job with this interview, that I'm going to leave a positive impression on this person. And they'll feel better about me as an individual, which allows me to connect with them on you know, a regular basis, or at least be able to reconnect with them later on better, which is kind of, you know, with Pat, when I initially got him on, that was kind of a goal. At the time, I didn't really have any products or services to sell at the time, to be honest. I just wanted to get to know Pat and, and be able to have a relationship with the guy. So you know, we brought him on the show. And then you know, since then we've hung out several in person, you know, podcasting events that, that I've spoken out with him. And obviously he's like, always speaking, like, big time, and I'm just trying to hang out with him stuff, because he's cool guy. But But yeah, so with with those ones, it's it's a lot more about it's guest centric, like how do I, how do I differentiate myself from all the other, you know, hundreds of interviews this person's done before? How can I? How can I get them off autopilot and get them to actually engage in an interesting conversation rather than just regurgitate the same answers, right? So they talked to, and the second thing, second person type, or that you have to worry about is your listener. And you got to understand that every minute of the listeners time is earned. And so if you, you know, you can be selfish in the interview and ask questions that pertain to your situation and stuff, because of course, you're the host, and there's probably a good chance that your audience is also curious about the things that you're curious about, which is why they're they, which is why they're your audience, right. But at the end of the day, you can't disrespect the audience's time by not worrying about them getting good value from the conversation and only making it about you and stroking your own ego and stroking your guests ego and then at the end of the day, like there's no learning that takes place, there's no inspiration that takes place, there's no real value in that listener showing up to the conversation, the only real value comes from you connecting with your guests, which is a big value, but not at the expense of your own listeners. So that's kind of the objective, every time we go into into an interview is, how can I make this guest feel good about themselves and get really great conversation out of them? But also, how does that affect my listener? And what kind of value does that bring to the table? And if I listened to this episode, would I want to listen to the next episode? You know what I mean? So those are some of the things that I'm thinking about when I go into it.
It's really good, it makes some very valid points. And this is really, I mean, everything you're saying is, is like strong principles for everyone and every single, you know, aspect of life, I'm thinking about so my listeners or or, you know, from mid 30s, to, you know, late 60s have obviously an investment background, whether you're the majority of it's all passive investments looking to build their wealth, passively taking control, owning, you know, assets, and, but they find themselves obviously, some of these guys have a job, some of them are retired. And so just the practicals of like building a network of people who, you know, are actually where you want to go I love the direction of even just in a practical situation, always being aware of who you're talking to directly and then those those bystanders who are listening like how can this conversation really still encourage and uplift These people, how can I uplift the person I'm talking to? How can I still get something out of it? So I love that synergistic picture of it. So going to that point, then, because you're obviously still want something out of it yourself. So I'm just trying to like really get into your brain like how you work. What was your? I'm curious, what was your number one objective? Personally, when you were interviewing Tom bill, you and your in person, you've got this, you know, the great opportunity. If there was one thing that you're wanting to extract for yourself, what would that have been?
For me that one was a big one, because Tom is one of those guys that I look at, in all almost all aspects of my life. And I think that like he's just a monster add there's, you know, his personal life, his relationships, his his, his management style, his ability to build big businesses, his ability to articulate and communicate complicated topics, his ability to create content to be entertaining, to be intelligent, like intelligent is the his knowledge on health and wellness, there are so many things that I want to talk to him about, really the at the end of the day, my objective was to leave with a good relationship with him and his team, so that I can continue to be a part of their their world, so to speak. So that's one, I think big takeaway that I think people can have is, it's not always about just the one person that individual, it's about the people around them, and how you can connect and add value to those people. Because a lot of the times, especially when it's somebody that's that big, you have a little bit less of an opportunity to make an impact, because they meet so many people all the time. So if you can make an impact on somebody that you know, is in communication with them all the time, then a lot of times that can be the actual thing that gets your foot in the door before anybody else's. And so that was one of my big focuses is when I was there at the at the at the mansion, the impact house is what they call it. When I was there, I was just trying to connect with as many of his team members as I could get to know what they did, what their role was, how I could help them how I could serve. And then when I interviewed Tom specifically, it was my goal to to bring out passion points of his and like, bring out points that I knew that he'd get fired up about and talk about and, and then you know, to be able to like make him laugh and make him impressed that I had done my research. And that I was at least a formidable interviewer, maybe not somebody that rivals him because he's one of the best but you know, at least somebody that took the opportunity seriously and didn't come in with absolutely no preparation involved and make a negative impression. So that was kind of my goal. When I when I interviewed Tom.
Man, I love that. It speaks to your wisdom in the natural point, when most people would go into an interview like that they've got like, it's they go into that position of almost being inferior and like they lose the authority they had when they were interviewing someone else. And we're gonna watch that interview, you put him in that giddy stage, I loved your first question. And he really wasn't ready to go back that far. Because he was expecting that he was really in a more warrior moment of like tactical. And you can see him like caught off guard. But that put him in a playful spirit. And then he went back into that which obviously he everyone loves telling their story because they begin get into their story more so I love I love that picture. And then I love the wisdom that you spoke in the in the the primary thing you wanted was the relationships, because you can get everything else later, if you can just connect and build those relationships. And clearly, my hallucination is, is that those people who are on his team, those are some low hanging fruit where you're able to add massive value from presence to little pockets of opportunity that they don't normally get even from Tommy because he's just so busy. And so yeah, I love that man. Good.
You know, I was able to connect with like the guy that does a lot of his scheduling and booking and have interviews and stuff and like, now been able to introduce him to like three different people that they've actually ended up having on the show.
Oh, wow.
So it's a big, you know, a big value point. For me to be able to have connected with that person, you know, to and and continue to add value to him and his team through just a couple of brief introductions that they probably could have gotten, you know, on their own. They didn't need me to do them, but it at least like What's my name back in the conversation, you know?
That's awesome. Most people I would say wait for something you know big to happen to They, you know, they're actually waiting on, you know, someone to reach out to them or they're waiting on that big opportunity. You know, simply just waiting for attention to come to them. And we talk a lot about how there's a difference between excellent like having an excellent game, and game. Excellent. So like, an excellent game would be where you're excellent one time, like someone I hit the ball one time really good, or in the basketball game that you played really well tonight, but not normally. But game excellence is where you're excellent every single time on autopilot. And that's what I've seen, when I see you interviewing all these individuals, it's like, Man, you had to have been excellent, and have gained excellence. Because that like, what people don't see is to actually get on the big show to actually pull extract things out of them that they weren't expecting, or no one actually has is all the fundamental work behind the scenes that you had to do. And so, share some more of that, you know, what is that? What does that look like? Behind the scenes? You shared a little bit about what is but a little bit more on? like? What does that game excellence look like? In a practical sense?
Yeah, sure, it just looks like have you preparation, that's really the big thing, especially for all the big names that I've had on it, it really anybody that gets interviewed a lot knows when somebody knows their stuff, and when somebody is bluffing or just not prepared. And, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to leave a negative impression, like, you might just be a naturally good interviewer, and you might be able to get away with it. But you're always going to make a positive impression. If you come in really well researched, and you know, your stuff. You know, like when I interviewed Grant Cardone, he stopped me probably two or three different times in the interview to say something like, Wow, you really know your stuff, or you do a really great interview, I need to send my buddies over to you, or like he, like stopped me in the middle of a conversation when I asked a question, because it came from a place of preparation of, you know, I just read his book, his most recent book, and formulating questions based on his life story that I already knew. So, you know, I was ahead of him when he was telling his story, which allows me to be able to point him in the direction of the story that I want him to go down, that I know is going to be a really valuable piece for my audience to learn. So and, and sometimes a valuable piece for him to talk about, maybe it's something that's a big, you know, talking point of his or maybe he doesn't get to talk about it a lot. But he wishes he could, you know, if I do the preparation, I can know those things ahead of time and ask questions that get those people talking down that path, which makes them feel good about themselves. And that's the bottom line is, is that, you know, people will never remember what you say. But they're always remember how you make them feel. And so if you can just have a leave a positive impression on some of these people, that you're at least somebody that's a professional person, you know what I mean? Like, they may not be calling on you tomorrow to put a deal together with you. But at least next time we crossed paths, it was like I had a positive experience with that person. You know what I mean? Like when I left that interview, I felt good about it. And another guy that had been on three 400 podcasts. And when we were done with our interview, he said something like, you could always tell who actually prepares for interviews. And he's like, there's only a handful of shows that I've been on that have like stood up stood out above the rest of yours is one of them, you know. So if you come in with that level of preparation, where you can almost finish the story for them, you can provide some context in the question and ask something a level deeper, because you already know the answer to the surface level question because they answered it on four other interviews that they've done. Right, right, right. The only way to know that is to listen to the four other interviews and understand they're like, oh, man, I don't want to ask that question. Because all four other people, everyone else
asked that question, right?
Well, you you have an opportunity to differentiate yourself and stand out from the rest of the crowd. And if you are not prepared for that, then it'll be much, much, much more difficult to make that happen. Not impossible, just more difficult.
As a great distinction and funny story. I was watching a YouTube video by Grant probably about eight is over a year ago. And he was referencing your interview and I didn't I didn't actually know that that's who it was. It was you actually who interviewed at a time until then I watched your that podcast, and then I put the two together because I was looking at your face while you're interviewing him when we go back to it, but he was actually talking about it as if like he had never been entered. You'd like that. And you actually, he's obviously a teacher. And so he would rather not go deep. And he's trying to, you know, teach through the interview, and you didn't let him teach through the interview you like you like, kind of pull that aside, and you actually went for the jugular a couple times, and he let you and it was just like he had he had to go out and reflect. And then that was when you were talking about him being on how he started out, and he was on drugs. And then he actually got into that story. And, and you could tell he wasn't as fueled in? Well, all you're talking about that? Because it's not a daily store hotels, right. Everyone likes that Hero's Journey coming out of themselves. And so I really appreciate that answer. That seekers, that's a secret sauce that
no one's doing. And that's kind of what I mean by get them off autopilot, you know, is like, especially because it was right when he came out with his book a couple years ago, and so he had probably just done 100 interviews, trying to sell his book, you know, and everybody asks all the same questions. So he has canned answers that he gives to everybody that asked, so when you come in and and, like, pin him down on certain questions that most people aren't asking about, or skip over, then they it gets them off autopilot. Like they have to actually jump into the conversation and and have a real conversation, you
know, love that. And as you've built your network, clearly, you're soaking and saturating in the content that you're actually helping create from those, you know, high level influencers. What are some of those like, those bombs? Those like, they just dropped the nugget and you just like, absorb it? What are those some of those nuggets, I'd love to hear some of those that are like personally just like, been like pillars or shifted the trajectory of the atmosphere that you're actually in?
Wow, man, that's a tough question. Because I mean, we've done hundreds of interviews. Now, it's so difficult to just like pick one or two things that I've picked up from my guests, because there's just so many incredible people that I've been able to interview. For some reason, this one's coming to the top of my mind. So I'll say this one, I found an odd To be honest, I don't remember who I heard it from. First time that it might have been Tom bill, you actually. But basically, taking radical responsibility for yourself and for your life is one of like a big life changing concepts that I've picked up over the last couple of years, and something that I feel like I've implemented in a big way in my own life and my business and just always constantly asking myself, asking myself how I can improve, which depends on if you have control over the ability to improve or not. And if you don't ever take responsibility for your life, then you don't have control over what happens or what doesn't happen. If you don't have control, then why bother, just let life happen and see what goes on. And that's how most people go throughout life is just kind of letting life happen to them. And then that those are the people that have all the excuses in the world of why they can't do this, and why they can't do that. And this isn't working for them, and the world is against them, the universe is against them. And it's just because they never, ever just sat and took responsibility for their own life. Taking responsibility and taking fault are not the same thing. By the way, you know, a great distinction, say that it's my fault that this thing happened to me or I started off life with this disadvantage, or whatever it might be like, it's not your fault, but it is 100% your responsibility to own that, and ask yourself, what you're going to do about it moving forward, and how you're going to get around it. And so that's been one of the big, you know, life lesson takeaway that, that I've taken from guests on my show.
Yeah, that's a big distinction. ownership of that, in that responsibility of like, you're not just your purpose, but like you've been created for a purpose bigger than what you're currently living. So that that, that that agree one way or another, taking responsibility for that. That's a that's a great pillar. Love that. Last question I have for you, is going to be around masterminds. So we're talking about building a network we're talking about. Everyone needs a bigger network, would you agree? I mean, everyone needs a bigger network. No one ever is to a point where, you know, it's like, Hey, I'm good. And um, so I have a lot of listeners. And in because obviously, it's an investment firms, we have a lot of older crowd who are building their wealth, and have built their wealth. And so at this point, the natural condition of man happens and they fall asleep and become machine. So now they got their money, right, because they've invested it with me. But now they actually are in this position where all these bad rules happen. So some of the bad rules are, I lived my purpose. And now I've worked hard to fill in the blank to retire and just play or to not really do anything, because I've already done it, or I'm tired. For the last four years, I've retired already, but I'm still tired. It's like everyone know, no matter if it's 5060 7080, you're on the downhill, and they're in their mind. And so the reality is, is everyone thrives when they have quality thinking people around them, everyone thrives with a purpose, when they I mean, that's how we have iron sharpens iron and how you had it when you're 18. That's how you had it when you're 38. That's how you should have it when you're, you know, 6878. So for people who need to be, you know, around cultivating around people, why is it so important to actually have a mastermind, whether you have a business or don't have a business? Why does everyone need a mastermind
because connection of other people like minded, like Connecting, Connecting with like minded people on a regular and on purpose basis around something that fires you up or fuels you. People need connection, and it's one of the basic human needs is connection to other people. We're not, we're not, you know, we're not supposed to be islands, we're, we're supposed to connect with other people. And if you, especially as an adult, it's much more difficult to build relationships with people on purpose. And especially if you're in that life stage, if you're, you know, retiring life stage, it's even more difficult at that point. Because, you know, like, you're not going to work every day and surrounded by a bunch of people at your cubicle or whatever. So, so yeah, I think that masterminds are super important, just for the, the purpose that it gives you, meaning that meaning that you're not leaving your network up to chance, I guess, is what I'm trying to say like jumping into a mastermind is the most on purpose form of connecting with high level people that you can do, especially, you know, because a lot of masterminds have a price tag associated with them. And that price tag kind of weeds out people who are not at that level yet, and not in a negative way, just in a positive way to know that like you're not just spending your time with people who are going to waste your time but you're spending your time with people who are going to sharpen you make you a better person and you know, give you a give you a bed to sleep in when you travel to their town, you know what I mean? Like that the on purpose relationship building around a topic that is something that you share with the other people in the group that to me is, is you know, unparalleled in its ability to get you plugged in and get you accountable to doing the things that you know you should be doing.
Yeah, I love that you actually lead a mastermind and we'll get to that in a second but the principle of having a mastermind being a part of something you've got to be a part of people people's lives who actually have something well oiled that you don't have well oiled and everyone is always a higher level up there's always something that you can update in your know your spiritual Nervous System your physical nervous system, your financial nervous system. And Matt you know, I was probably the most impactful mastermind that I was a part of, still am a part of but is Tony Robbins Platinum partnership. And I mean, I was I was the youngest one in the group I had a just really a couple years under my belt my business I was just making six figures you're you know what, it was just a time in my life of massive transition 300 grand you know, 117 days on the road it was intense you know, traveling all over the world from Fiji to to Canada to go meet with billionaires to France and driving muscle cars and you know, just all over the world but and that was an obviously being with him and the photos and the time and building a real relationship with him. But but the mastermind the people in the group are just like top class and we we didn't have much in common we're all around the world but we had one single thing in common we all want to achieve something we were all stuck in something and so that like iron sharpening iron, I mean the time you know out at nighttime where you're just talking about debriefing through something or man it's it's a it's a powerful concept. And the reality is most people have never, ever been in a mastermind. And I believe a mastermind is is not just For people in business but everyone needs one I mean you're gonna pay you're gonna pay for something that through counseling, you know through you know divorce attorney through a psychiatrist like why would you go through all these are routes when you can actually go build and actually put that money towards something is actually going to grow you and transform the internal you to make you a better you so man Travis my man How can people get ahold of you if they are interested in more of your services?
Yeah just Travis and Travis chapel comm shoot me an email Travis and Travis Shopify comm it's I manage that inbox myself so shoot me an email and I'll get back to you
and if someone was interested in in doing something with you what what can they do with you?
Yeah, so we do like podcasts courses and kind of mentorship and guidance for entrepreneurs and business owners just how to build profitable podcasts and so we have the podcast profit Academy as well as like an accelerator group coaching program and then we have our software guest to so you know we do some one on one coaching but it's very very few and far between at this point very selective on on one on one coaching clients but we do you know still take on every take on someone every once in a while and have those things we also do have our our mastermind which is the cool people cool places mastermind we have a retreat coming up and this one's actually unique because it's like leftover from last mastermind cuz we had to cancel move things around with the you know COVID thing so this next this next retreat is actually open enrollment retreat so anybody can come to it and it's in Costa Rica we rented out a resort for five days all inclusive resort that we rent it out so your price in the mastermind includes you know your entire trip except for your plane your your plane ticket and like you know taxi and whatever but everything else is is included food and the resort fee and all that stuff and then I'm bringing in a couple of seven eight figure entrepreneur coaches and you know influencers and a couple videographers and camera people and we're just gonna hang out for five days down in Costa Rica mastermind get some business stuff done get some fun and get some content created and then come back home so cool people cool places. mastermind retreat coming up in Costa Rica this May.
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Travis at Travis chapel.com, CEO of guest CO and host of the build your network podcasts So, man enjoyed it. Love the iron sharpening iron. I know this is something that my my guests are really interested in. And until next time, my friend
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